A man with a facial disfigurement says he was asked to leave a restaurant in south London because staff said he was “scaring the customers”.
Oliver Bromley has Neurofibromatosis Type 1, a genetic condition that causes non-cancerous tumours to grow on his nerves.
Speaking to the BBC, he said when he had gone to place an order at a restaurant in Camberwell, staff told him there had been complaints about him.
“It’s a horrible thing to happen. I took it very personally on the day,” he said.
Fuck that restaurant, everyone is too “ugly” to eat there. I can think of many DC restaurants that would love to serve them.
I know judging people on their appearances isn’t right, and he shouldn’t have been kicked out regardless of what he looked like.
… but it doesn’t even look that bad? Like, “I’ve got one eye and a skin condition”, is that really what the restaurant is willing to kick people out for?
Hope he gets some sort of justice out of this.
That’s fucked.
He said they had told him that although it was a hate crime, it was “unlikely” officers could pursue it further.
But when someone shop lifts from a corporation, here come the cops running
Time to lawyer up. Though I don’t know how the law works there in Britland.
I wouldn’t want to look at that while I was eating… SO I WOULD AVOID STARING AT HIM. Complaining about the guy is not the answer. Self control and respect are.
The article says he thinks there wasn’t enough time for someone to complain, the restaurant staff was using it as an excuse.
“He said: "After entering I noticed a cash-only sign, so went straight back outside to withdraw my money.
“I went back into the restaurant to place an order, and they told me to ‘please leave’, because in their words I was ‘scaring the customers’, and there had been complaints about me.”
He added: “There had not been enough time between the time I had been there first, and the time I went back, for anyone to have made a complaint about me so obviously the restaurant staff were not happy with the way I looked.” “
Yeah, I read the article. I was just imagining a hypothetical situation where he and I were eating in the same restaurant.
“at that”… If you don’t want to eat around other people that exist then just don’t go to restaurants.
Woosh
It’s pretty clear that they are saying your phrasing was pretty dehumanizing. They didn’t get wooshed, they were pointing out your well-intended micro aggression.
It looks dehumanizing because they cherry-picked my reply. I referred to him as a person in the very same sentence. When I said “that”, I was referring to the skin grafts and scabs. Those are things. They are not him.
The accusation was not made in good faith, and/or was made by someone with poor reading comprehension. They definitely got wooshed, and it’s pretty clear that you did, too.
Okay bud. This means way too much to you. I think maybe you should take a step back and take a deep breath, because holy fuck.
Yes absolutely, the polite thing to do would be to stare at the man’s disfigurement for the entire meal…
It seems that some British hate handicapped/disfigured people. Just read this article about a kid in a wheelchair being excluded from the school photo. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/mar/29/aberdeenshire-pupils-with-complex-needs-erased-from-school-photo
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/04/school-photos-disabled-children
or people complaining about seeing a tv host with a missing arm. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/feb/21/tv-presenter-cerrie-burnell
It’s just good old British Classism that never went away.
Wonder if it’s got anything to do with thalidomide disfiguration.
Don’t all countries have this problem?
To some degree. Never heard of handicapped kids being excluded from school photos in my country though.
And if you were asked to leave in the US because of a facial disfigurement you could fully expect to have a business closing lawsuit won against you in no time at all. Wa are as litigious AF for better or worse, usually worse.
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Well thats good to hear
Never heard of it. It’s difficult to know how much of the difference is the actual occurrence and how much is the reporting of it.
Maybe it’s just where I was raised, but I don’t see this at all in my day to day life in the US. Things have come a very long way.
I’m sure there are still things that are shitty that I probably wouldn’t notice as I’m not in that position… But in general, most people here don’t seem to give a shit these days.
To be clear, I’m not referring to classism. That still exists to a degree, though it’s mostly been supplanted by racism.
I see people with prosthetic legs all the time at my work (grocery store) and I think nothing more of it than “that guy could do an absolutely dope robot costume for Halloween”
I did see someone with double prosthetic legs and that was cool.
As a guy with a prosthetic leg that walks in grocery stores. Yes, we can do awesome costumes. Yes, a lot of horrific discrimination still happens in the US to non-abled bodied and non-neurotypical peoples.
We have out problems, but were actually really good about ableism, so silver lining. Still feel for that guy though, hope he gets all the good things he deserves
Oddly enough Australia is one of the most accepting countries I’ve been in when it came to PWD. Elevators for every train platform and if one broke they fixed it straight away. They also didn’t exclude lower income people no where near as much as they do in the US, Canada or UK.
That said, the way they treat women, First Nations and POC or just about anyone who isn’t australian leaves much room for improvement.
No, fuck off, that’s got nothing to do with nationality.
Nah… the british have a propensity for treating different people badly.
Yes, the species is prone to it, it’s a damn shame.
This is just a case of some people being cunts.
For a community that prides itself on not being reddit, an unfortunate amount of reddits opinions and (lack of) values made it here alright.
Or maybe that has nothing to do with the community as a whole and is just a case of some people being cunts?
That’s just horrible. And wtf is this “Yes it’s a crime but what can we do?” bullshit. Man I feel sorry for that guy. No body deserves to be treated that way. He just wanted to have a nice night out. Fuck that restaurant.
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just… put him on his good side.
/s
Turn the other cheeks
i mean, that’s one solution i guess.
I’ll take a restaurant full of disfigured people over 1 misbehaving toddler.
As someone who formerly worked at a restaurant, I agree.
We were located in a fenced off area owned by the same company that had a string of bars/clubs, so after 8pm only 21+ were allowed in, but on Saturday afternoons the stroller crowd would roll through and let their kids run around making a mess of all the tables.
I’m not against parents bringing their kids out for a meal, but if they’re just sitting there pounding beer after beer and ignoring their chaotic unleashed children then it gets really old really fast.
Plot twist, the restaurant full of disfigured people are toddlers.
😭
As a parent of younger kids, we’re sorry. We come armed with as many activities as possible and will take our kids outside if they’re too excited until food gets to the table. That will help them focus on eating.
We very rarely went out to eat when they were toddlers due to fear of our kids bothering others and understand that our desire to experience some level of normalcy shouldn’t come at the expense of others.
All that said, if the parents are trying to keep their kids occupied, please extend some grace. Being a parent can be extremely isolating and we’re simply trying to pretend like we still get to do normal things once in a while.
This is fine, and we thank you for your efforts.
What were talking about here is a rogue crotch spawn running around or under tables, occupied or not, and generally acting like they’re in their own living room rather than a shared community space.
Honestly IMO if you can keep them at the table, I can put up with the noise. Sure, it’s annoying, but so are kids. It’s a package deal. And everyone was a kid at one point in time and therefore has no excuse to complain too loudly. That’s reserved for when I have to drag a screeching rug rodent out from under my chair and haul it back to the absentee sperm and egg donors.
Haha, our kids do go under our table at times but they know not to go under other people’s tables.
I don’t have much tolerance for absentee parenting either, especially if the kids wind up seeking attention from others, by say going under someone else’s table, because they’re not getting enough attention from their own parents.
If you’re trying, the ire isn’t for you. It’s for the shitty parents that feel entitled to not teach their children to behave, don’t feel it’s their job to or act like they are a victim of a life choice and take it out on the child or others. There are plenty of those type out there and I’m sure you don’t want to be lumped in with those ones, you also don’t have to defend them.
See, Britain just needs Ugly Laws, like what America had up until 1974! Then they could just have the guy arrested!
In all seriousness what the fuck. What goes through a person’s head that they think treating someone that way is even remotely okay?
They don’t want to look at that guy’s ugly face? I bet it looks nicer than their ugly minds.
Probably looks better than their ugly faces too.
Some people are just determined to make it difficult to believe humanity is worth saving.
Don’t worry…
wait, in the article, why is his left eye removed in the first photo and his right eye in the next?
Seems like BBC isn’t checking their pictures or maybe he chooses which side to pop his eye in each morning
It looks to me like the first one was taken with the front-facing camera of a phone, and those often have a horizontal flip option
Pocket squares/boutonnieres are pretty much always on the wearer’s left-hand side, so that’s my guess as well.
Lmao most downvoted comment for asking a reasonable question (albeit with a pretty well understood answer). Lemmy truly is reddit 2.0
Were you expecting philosopher kings with a more advanced heuristic than “I don’t like this post”? The improvement is decentralization - that doesn’t make the users nice or smart.
Well, I agree that the users here aren’t nice or smart. So here we are.
Then why do you use Lemmy/Reddit at all?
Good question. I got off Reddit after they banned third party apps, but I should probably get off Lemmy as well.
There were a lot of great things about Reddit that originally led me there, but everything I loved about it was gone by the time I left. I was hoping Lemmy would fill that hole; I was looking for a place for great insights and opinions around niche topics. But Lemmy feels more like a political echo chamber, which is a shame.
The original comment we’re responding to is a great example of that. There’s no reason for ignorance to be hated like it is here, but dislike and getting on the negative bandwagon is what Lemmy thrives on.
I’ll probably be gone soon, and your comments are a big part of that. I genuinely don’t mean that as an insult, it’s just that you inspired some
retrospectionintrospection. I guess this comment is basically just for myself in the end, but thank you.
Obviously he’s faking his condition for attention…
🤦Take a guess…?
One of them is probably flipped.
Nah, I bet he’s faking it. Continuity error
Crisis actor!
Too bad he was too decent to name the place. Any retribution that might happen is richly deserved.
I do feel for the guy, but I also feel bad for the restaurant. It’s not an easy position to be in. It seems like a pretty rare condition and it’s not like he will be carrying any sort of proof as to what the condition is let alone anyone on staff at the restaurant that could diagnose him or even say if the condition matches what he claims it to be.
If someone walked in with small pox I would hope the restaurant would eject them, but it’s not like they would be able to say if it is or isn’t small pox. It’s a no win situation for both parties involved.
